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  How to start....

  by The Rebel in

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  i think it would be a good idea to start a thread with suggestions on how to start a journey away from the w.t.

  obviously circumstances are different for each individual.. my advice is:-.

  a) fade gently but with the objective never to return.. b) my opinion on beliefs and theology is that if they are not verifiable and relevant to your everyday life then set them aside for now.. c) if you have spent your life sincerly believing your ministry was helping in the most important work beiing done on the earth, then i would would suggest simply by being ethical in speech and action, will effect others in a positive way evangelizing as a j.w never could.. d.) as for armeggedon, that's simply control by fear.

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  Another option for those who can stomach the fading/faking route (it takes acting skills and putting up with being pressured back for quite a while), another option is to quit any and all activity abruptly.

  Politely but firmly decline any meetings with elders.

  Tell friends and family nothing unless they initiate the conversation and you're absolutely sure that the conversation will stay absolutely confidential. Otherwise you could tell them something along the lines of 'After careful/prayerful research/meditation I have concluded I can no longer in good conscience preach or attend meetings.'

  This method has less negative effects than disassociating as people are at least allowed to talk to you. In practice many dubs will avoid you anyway. This happens when you fade as well, but it takes a bit longer with fading so that may be easier to adapt to.
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  Dutch assembly hall dedicated today...

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  anyone visited swifterbant or the video stream at the local kh?.

  any high- or lowlights?.

  asked my inwife if the new hall is nice (i know it's not).

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  Thanks for the info guys :-)

  @DarkSpilver, you were right ;-)
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  Call for Judicial Hearing by signed letter

  by sp74bb in

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  i'm quite surprised about the new approach of some local congregation brothers respect about my fade.... funny, ilegal and very dangerous in view of the different laws regarding personal data and minorities in spain and in the eu.... i already organized a press meeting with main newspapers in spain.

  many has shown interest in this situation.

  the fact of that a parallel judicial system do exist is amazing them.

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  Interesting they speak to you as a 'sir' and not a 'brother'. Any outcome of a meeting is already fixed.

  Would be fun to bring some reporters though :-D
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  Dutch assembly hall dedicated today...

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  anyone visited swifterbant or the video stream at the local kh?.

  any high- or lowlights?.

  asked my inwife if the new hall is nice (i know it's not).

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  Anyone visited Swifterbant or the video stream at the local KH?

  Any high- or lowlights?

  Asked my InWife if the new hall is nice (I know it's not). She didn't know as apparently they didn't show any good pictures in the video stream...
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  Memorial Services

  by penny2 in

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  all jw memorial services i've been to have been similar.

  a couple of sentences about the deceased and then it's all about the religion.

  very impersonal and scripted.

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  Recently the talk outline for memorials changed.

  The original one specifically stated something along the lines of:

  This talk is not a eulogy. Talk about the person shortly (preferably mention only his cult accomplishments and slavery), then continue with the impersonal cult stuff.

  The new outline instructs to weave remarks about the person throughout the talk, as long as it supports the cult stuff they're trying to plug.

  Plus the guy was well known, and JW are all about connections.
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  We have our own Gert Wilders in Australia

  by barry in

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kreptyyo6l8

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  You know the politicians from your tiny country must be really bad if even people on the other side of the world know them by name...

  :-D
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  Composition of members of the Watch Tower Society at the annual meeting in 1945

  by slimboyfat in

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  just came across this info from 1946 yearbook.

  it would be fascinating to have the same information on members at this year's annual meeting.

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  ...at least women are not allowed as voting members of the society.
  I guess Jesus also will only allow the female anointed in the heavenly kitchen to cook him some matzes?
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  See the new Dutch assembly hall

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. jw
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  ...it looks like a generic, easy to sell barn hall.. https://youtu.be/eqwrfhbbqwy.

  nothing like the old hall it's built next to.. the small room in the video is the indoctrination education center.. the building is completed one year ahead of schedule.

  my guess: it's either much simpler than they originally planned, and/or they had more volunteers because nothing else is being built.. video is dutch, but nothing interesting is said anyway..

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  @Wingcommander,

  You made me lol while I heard sizzling sounds and imagined a piece of bacon in a suit :-D

  @ToesUp,

  Just like the cult itse
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  See the new Dutch assembly hall

  by Anders Andersen in

  1. jw
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  ...it looks like a generic, easy to sell barn hall.. https://youtu.be/eqwrfhbbqwy.

  nothing like the old hall it's built next to.. the small room in the video is the indoctrination education center.. the building is completed one year ahead of schedule.

  my guess: it's either much simpler than they originally planned, and/or they had more volunteers because nothing else is being built.. video is dutch, but nothing interesting is said anyway..

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  @darkspilver,

  LOL I even already commented on that thread. Totally forgot 😛
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  Hopefully a Commonwealth Precedent - DF'ing Reviewable by a Court

  by search in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well, it's been a very long road, so far, but, for the greater good.. appeal decision posted today.. http://www.canlii.org/en/ab/abca/doc/2016/2016abca255/2016abca255.html?autocompletestr=highwood%20congr&autocompletepos=1.

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  Good luck.

  I understand that it's the economic impact of the DF that makes the court willing to review the case.

  But imho what should be reviewed by the court is that the life of a less than 15 year old child and their family can be destroyed because the child decided/was pressured to become 'member of a self governed organisation', but failed to foresee all consequences of that 'decision'.